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To be clear, I’m not arguing against your thesis (in fact, I’m not arguing at all). I’m very interested in your presentation of Christ in the role of Apostle and so I want the ground to be clear so I can better see the structure of what you’re saying.

St. Paul makes it clear that he was taught by Jesus directly: “I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:11-12). (I think this is what you were suggesting by mentioning his desert experience.) With that in mind, I don’t feel the need to rely on his relationship with the Law to fill any gaps there.

I’m primarily interested in exploring what Christ’s apostolic ministry actually was. It’s not very comfortable but we must recognize that, despite all the teaching and example, the disciples were largely left in the cold even at the end of their “hands-on” time with Jesus, to the point that He finally says to them “at least believe in the works themselves.” And, following this in John 16 they say, “See, now you are speaking plainly... Now we are sure that you know all things and and have no need that anyone should question you.” (What else can he say but, “Do you now believe?”)

Interestingly, we never hear anything like this in St. Paul’s experience.

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Thank you for this.

You wrote:

“Because of the considerable time spent with Him, the apostles were able to come genuinely to know Him and to appropriate His teaching in its fullness...”

Is this true? In my simple reading, I see something else as exemplified in Christ’s engagement with Phillip:

“Have I been with you for so long a time, and you do not know Me yet, Philip, nor recognize clearly who I am?”

And, following this (in John’s account):

“the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things.”

This isn’t about picking on details but seems to be central to the point you are generally making regarding Christ’s role in His earthly ministry.

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